A great deal of research has gone into what is and what is not proper technique
when interviewing a child who makes an allegation of sexual abuse. If history
has taught us anything, it is the dangers associated with untrained interviewers
who conduct multiple interviews, using leading and suggestive questions and/or
"props" that serve as coaching tools for a child. On more than one occasion,
improper interview techniques have actually "tainted" the testimony of a
child to a point where it became impossible to determine if the child was
giving an account of something that actually happened or something they learned
during the interview process.
Consider a Montana case where a man was being charged with fondling and digitally
penetrating a young girl's vagina. A review of the child's videotaped interview
quickly exposed the fact that the child never made any such allegation. During
her interview, she was asked, "Did he touch you down there?" Her response
was "Yes," She was then asked, "Did he stick his finger in you?" to which
she responded "Yes" again. A perfect example of the interviewer "suggesting"
something to a child and the child simply agreeing. That is a far cry from
simply asking the child to provide a narrative.
There is absolutely no question that child sexual abuse does exist, but so
do false allegations of abuse. It is a mistake to simply accept an allegation
of abuse at face value, yet there is case after case where "save-the-world"
"validators" do it daily. Many of these biased interviewers have a personal
agenda and to them, if the child said it happened, it happened. On many
occasions, they will actually put words in a child's mouth. A perfect example
comes from the interview of a child in a Connecticut case. During the interview,
the child stated, "He almost, accidently touched me down there." Immediately
following her statement, the interviewer asked, "So, when he touched you
down there, what did he say?" The child "DID NOT SAY" he touched her down
there. She said he "almost" did. There is a big difference. It is vital for
lawyers, judges, social workers and other professionals to understand the
necessity for proper interviewing techniques and continued education is critical
for those who do interview children.
When interviews are conducted with a child making an allegation of abuse,
without question, that interview should be videotaped. There is absolutely
no reason for not doing so. It provides a record of the interview and there
is absoluetly no misundersatnding as to what the child said. That is not
true when an interviewer relies on notes only. In addition, the video can
be shared with various agencies and that prevents the need for multiple
interviews. Most unfortunately, the main reason that many interviewers fail
to videotape is that they do not want a record that identifies imporper
techniques that could be used against them later. The key is, proper training.
Two of the leading research experts in the field of evaluating a child's
testimony are Doctors Steven Ceci and Maggie Bruck, the authors of "Jeopardy
in the Courtroom," a book published by the American Psychological Association
and considered by many to be the definitive in the scientific examination
of children's testimony. Consider the following, written by Ceci and Bruck
dealing with the importance of videotaping interviews..
Over the past two decades, there have been important procedural changes to
accommodate children's growing involvement in the legal system. One of the
most significant changes in the courtroom has involved the expanded admissibility
of children's hearsay statements. As a result, mental health, medical, and
law enforcement professionals, as well as parents, frequently testify about
children's prior statements. Sometimes their testimony is added by diaries
or by notes taken during or after interviews. Frequently, however, it is
the case that hearsay witnesses rely solely on memory.
Although it is assumed that the hearsay testimony can be an accurate account
of children's prior statements, there are times when such testimony can be
highly inaccurate, as illustrated by the following case involving alleged
sexual abuse of preschool children by their teacher. The state's appointed
expert witness provided the prosecution with written reports of her pretrial
evaluations of the child witnesses. One of those written reports included
the following passage: "He informed me that she (the defendant) drank the
pee-pee. That's how she got crazy." Compare this expert's report to the
transcript of the actual audio taped interview with this child.
Was this an idiosyncratic error made by an expert who consciously misrepresented
the content of her interview? The scientific literature suggests otherwise.
Her error was not deliberately motivated, but reflected the limitations of
our memory system. We do not remember events in detail, nor do we remember
conversations on a word-for-word basis. When we try to reconstruct past
experiences at a later time, no only do we fail to report some information,
but our current beliefs and motivations guide our reconstructions. As a result,
although much of what is recalled is accurate, significant errors can also
inadvertently occur. Memories of conversations of interviews are a special
instance of this phenomenon.
Recently, we and our colleagues have provided scientific support for these
conclusions based on our research into adult-child interviews. We asked adults
to interview children about a recently experienced event (about which the
researchers had full knowledge but about which the interviewers were ignorant).
These interviews were electronically recorded in order to obtain an accurate
record of the exact statements made by the interviewer and by the child.
Later, the interviewers were asked to recall the content of their interviews.
The following consistent results have been reported in various laboratories.
Three days after interviewing their four-year-old children about a special
event, mothers recalled only 35% of the details of the actual conversation.
Two weeks after interviewing four different children about special visitors
to their school, mental health trainees made significant substantive errors:
40% claimed that the child had participated in a special event, when an
examination of the transcripts revealed that the child had never made this
report.
Ten minutes after interviewing children about a previously experienced event,
highly trained and experienced interviewers did not recall a significant
number of statements made by the children and they frequently reported statements
that the child never made.
Thus, when asked to recall prior interviews with young children, interviewers
of varying levels of expertise frequently omitted important details and also
included details that were never stated by the child.
The situation regarding the accuracy with which an interviewer can recall
the gist of what a child told them is worse than the above data indicate.
This is because it is not sufficient for witnesses to recall only the essence
or gist of what a young child told them (e.g., "According to my notes, he
told me she made him drink urine.") Even if such a statement was made by
the child, judges need to consider the full interrogative context in which
such a statement was emerged. For example, was the statement a spontaneous
disclosure to an initial, open-ended question, "Tell me everything that happened
at school"? Or, was it prompted, the result of monosyllabic acquiescence
to a series of suggestive questions? Was the statement a product of initial
denials by the child that were eventually abandoned after repeated interviews
or repeated leading questions? To make these assessments and to determine
whether strategies recognized as capable of affecting the reliability and
accuracy of children's reports were applied by interviewers, the trier of
fact must examine a record that contains the exact wording and order of each
question asked and each response supplied during each interview. This report
should also contain the number of times questions are repeated and the tone
of questioning.
When providing hearsay evidence, how easily can adults recall these important
elements of interviews? The following example demonstrates the fallibility
of reporting by one police detective whose written report provided details
of his interview with a young boy who accused his parents and other adults
of sexual abuse. "On other occasions, Britt said that a man would put his
privates in his butt and that at the same time, a woman would make him put
his mouth on her privates." The transcript of the audiotape of this same
interview shows that although the detective accurately reported the gist
of the interview, his hearsay testimony misrepresented the manner in which
the statements were extracted from the child:
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Adult: Okay, when you were tied up Britt, on the floor, and a man was sticking
his penis into your butt, was a lady doing something to you at the same time?
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Child: No.
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Adult: Would that ever happen?
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Child: Yes.
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Adult: What would the lady be doing?
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Child: I can't remember.
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Adult: Would she be doing anything with your mouth?
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Child: (pause) Yes.
In most of the studies conducted by our colleagues and ourselves, the
interviewers were also asked to recall the exact words used and how the
information was disclosed by the children. The results suggest that this
detective's failure to report the manner in which the child's statements
were obtained is common across interviewers, and that it reflects the rapid
loss from memory of the exact words used, and the sequences of interactions
between speakers. For example, mothers could not remember who said what (e.g.,
they could not remember whether they had suggested that an activity had occurred
or if the child had spontaneously mentioned the activity). They could not
remember the types of questions they had asked their children (e.g., they
could not remember whether they had used an open-ended question or a series
of leading questions to obtain a piece of information). The mental health
trainees made similar types and numbers of errors when asked to recall their
interviews with preschool children.
In addition, these trainees mixed up which children said what. That is, they
often attributed the actual report of Child A to Child B. And the highly
experienced interviewers who were questioned 10 minutes after an interview
with a young child recalled that they had not asked leading questions or
questions requiring any one-word answers. In fact, however, the transcripts
of their audio taped interviews showed that they mainly used leading and
specific questions.
In summary, serious errors occur in recall of conversations and interviews
with children. These errors are made by interviewers with various levels
of training and also with various levels of familiarity with the child. The
errors include the omission of details (forgetting) and the commission of
details (inserting facts that were not stated), as wells as misreporting
the degree to which the child's answers were spontaneous or the result of
suggestive techniques. In addition, interviewers often cannot recall the
source of their hearsay statements; they cannot remember whether the child
originally made the statement, whether the interviewer originally made the
statement, and in some cases, whether another child made that statement.
The last error is most likely to occur when investigators interview a number
of children during the same investigation.
Our demonstrations of interviewer fallibility probably underestimate memory
errors in courtrooms. First, unlike interviewers in these experimental studies
who were asked to recollect a recent interview, experts and other witnesses
often must reconstruct an interview that occurred months or even years
previously. Memory fades with the passage of time, and therefore courtroom
interviewers can be expected to do even more poorly than the interviewers
in our experiments, who were tested only minutes to days after completing
their interviews. Second, many experts have interviewed, evaluated, or treated
hundreds of children. Our results suggest that their reports may at times
reflect confusion among cases (a situation that is reported by many school
principals and by pediatricians).
What are potential remedies to ensure the accuracy of hearsay testimony?
One suggestion is to encourage each interviewer to keep notes or diaries
that can be used to aid future testimony. However, notes and diaries are
subject to a number of distortions that can include omission of important
details, inclusion of inaccurate details, and, most importantly, the absence
of verbatim record of each utterance produced in the interview. Usually notes
only contain pieces of information that the investigator thinks are important
at the moment. In fact, no interviewer can write down every word during an
interview. They cannot and do not write down every question asked, especially
ones that failed to produce a response, or produced an undesired response.
If the investigator has a bias that the chid was a victim, participant, or
observer of a crime, this could color his or her interpretation of what the
child said or did; and it is this interpretation that appears in the notes/diary
rather than a factual account of what transpired.
The results of the scientific studies reported above support these conclusions.
First, explicitly warning interviewers to remember all details and words
of an upcoming interview with a child does not influence the accuracy of
their subsequent reports of the interview. Second, errors are made even when
interviewers are encouraged to make careful notes. In the most naturalistic
of the current studies, audio taped transcripts of investigatory interviews
with sexually abused children were compared to handwritten notes that
interviewers took during the interview. The notes were inaccurate; there
were omissions of important details, and there were frequent misreports that
the child's statements were spontaneous when, in fact, they were produced
by repeated questions.
The most significant message to be drawn from this work is that interviewers
should be mandated to electronically preserve all (and especially the very
first) of their interviews with children. If courts are interested in historical
accuracy, there is simply no substitute for a tape that can be played to
verify the accuracy of the witness's recall and the details of the discussion
that took place between the interviewer and child. Although there may be
times when it is not feasible to electronically record interviews (specifically
when parents question their children at home or in the car), it is nevertheless
important for jurors and judges to know how to interpret hearsay testimony
and to consider the potential for different types of errors, even though
the testimony may be compelling and be offered in good faith. Finally, it
might be argued that electronic records should be mandated for interviews
of adults as well as children. At present, however, there is only sufficient
scientific evidence and legal cause to support the recommendation in the
case of children - - who often cannot and do not provide courtroom testimony
to support or rebut the hearsay testimony provided by their adult interviewers.